Discussion:
Kodak to stop making digital cameras
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Alan Browne
2012-02-10 21:55:16 UTC
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Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).
I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.
Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
I see Alan Browne is showing (yet again) his near-total ignorance of
the photo industry. I suppose it matches his ignorance across a broad
range of topics related to photography, so it is to be expected.
For those who are interested in the facts, rather than the usual
Browne BS, Kodak sold its sensor design and manufacturing business to
Platinum Equity in early November 2011. It was widely reported across
the photo web sites and in printed media and discussed on Usenet photo
Really "Bruce", do you lay in wait for my slightest error to make an ad
hominem attack? Pathetic is too light a word for your ... condition.

With that in mind however, let me refer to some facts since you seem so
fond of them:

QUOTE
But I must be fair to the 75-150mm f/4 Zuiko; it made me money,
because the results were good enough for several picture
editors. One of my shots taken with this lens was on the cover
of "Paris Match" in the late 1970s. The two most "profitable"
lenses I owned were this and the 24mm f/2.8 Zuiko, which is a
fine lens and every bit the equal of the Nikkor.

..
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
UNQUOTE

ref:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.rec.photo.misc/n7Nx54rzxaw/uyb4AdyG_x4J

What editor Tony?
What edition of Paris Match Tony?

C'mon Tony. Show us your "prowess".

Or should these photographic "facts" taken by you suffice to demonstrate
your actual abilities?

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Alan Browne
2012-02-10 21:59:02 UTC
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Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).
I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.
Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
Especially when your rivals already lead the field with innovative
products.
I believe Kodak had a brilliant chance to lead, but they took several
missteps. The rest ...
Concentrating on printers makes perfectly good sense for a company who's
history has always been about selling stuff to make pictures with.
So it seemed. However, stepping back companies such as hp and several
others have been in printing, longer and larger than Kodak for a long
time (at least at the consumer/small office stuff.
I remember way back when my mother (May she forever lie in peace) took
me to town to buy me a darkroom kit for my 12th birthday. For many years
after that I always bought from the Kodak shop. Paper, Chemicals dishes
and various darkroom tools.
My first exp. in a darkroom was with a friend who's parents helped him
get started.
For my 15th Birthday she once again went to the Kodak shop. This time to
buy me a Kodak Retinette 1A camera. My first 35mm camera. In all the
film I shot with this camera were some of my most memorable photographs.
Family history of long gone, cherished relatives. My first of many
things recorded forever on Kodak film. Printed on Kodak paper and
developed in Kodak chemicals.
The camera was far from being a shining example of greatness. The
Voiglander I bought when I started work as a cub photographer was so
superior to the Kodak in every way, I often wondered why Kodak ever
bothered making cameras.
Their largest film markets were in selling family memories, not catering
to photographers. So the cameras had to be both cheap and simple. Good
enough for the market buying the film.
How ironic that a lifetime later, making cameras has sunk the company.
Over reliance on the printer market did that.
Now it they just get the cost of their wide format paper and packaged
photo paper under control and actually concentrate on being competitive
in the market place, They might just survive.
Hopefully.
BTW... Is there any valid reason for cross posting to similar groups
when everyone reads those groups too? Looks more like newsgroup spam
than legitimate news... As if there is anything newsworthy in the stuff
that get posted in these cross posted messages. More like plagiarism in
to eyes.
I've been a member of these and other photo NG's for well over 10 years.
I'm not a prolific x-poster, but I do x-post where I believe there
will be interest in it.

Chloe, I hope you participate in the current shoot-in, due this Sunday.
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/letter_u

Cheers,
Alan
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PeterN
2012-02-11 01:58:59 UTC
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Post by Alan Browne
Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).
I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.
Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
I see Alan Browne is showing (yet again) his near-total ignorance of
the photo industry. I suppose it matches his ignorance across a broad
range of topics related to photography, so it is to be expected.
For those who are interested in the facts, rather than the usual
Browne BS, Kodak sold its sensor design and manufacturing business to
Platinum Equity in early November 2011. It was widely reported across
the photo web sites and in printed media and discussed on Usenet photo
Really "Bruce", do you lay in wait for my slightest error to make an ad
hominem attack? Pathetic is too light a word for your ... condition.
With that in mind however, let me refer to some facts since you seem so
QUOTE
But I must be fair to the 75-150mm f/4 Zuiko; it made me money,
because the results were good enough for several picture
editors. One of my shots taken with this lens was on the cover
of "Paris Match" in the late 1970s. The two most "profitable"
lenses I owned were this and the 24mm f/2.8 Zuiko, which is a
fine lens and every bit the equal of the Nikkor.
..
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
UNQUOTE
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.rec.photo.misc/n7Nx54rzxaw/uyb4AdyG_x4J
What editor Tony?
What edition of Paris Match Tony?
C'mon Tony. Show us your "prowess".
Or should these photographic "facts" taken by you suffice to demonstrate
your actual abilities?
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000a.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000b.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000c.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000d.jpg
Do you expect consistency from Brucie?
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Peter
Chloe
2012-02-12 05:35:06 UTC
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Post by Alan Browne
Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).
I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.
Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
I see Alan Browne is showing (yet again) his near-total ignorance of
the photo industry. I suppose it matches his ignorance across a broad
range of topics related to photography, so it is to be expected.
For those who are interested in the facts, rather than the usual
Browne BS, Kodak sold its sensor design and manufacturing business to
Platinum Equity in early November 2011. It was widely reported across
the photo web sites and in printed media and discussed on Usenet photo
Really "Bruce", do you lay in wait for my slightest error to make an ad
hominem attack? Pathetic is too light a word for your ... condition.
With that in mind however, let me refer to some facts since you seem so
QUOTE
But I must be fair to the 75-150mm f/4 Zuiko; it made me money,
because the results were good enough for several picture
editors. One of my shots taken with this lens was on the cover
of "Paris Match" in the late 1970s. The two most "profitable"
lenses I owned were this and the 24mm f/2.8 Zuiko, which is a
fine lens and every bit the equal of the Nikkor.
..
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
UNQUOTE
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.rec.photo.misc/n7Nx54rzxaw/uyb4AdyG_x4J
What editor Tony?
What edition of Paris Match Tony?
C'mon Tony. Show us your "prowess".
Or should these photographic "facts" taken by you suffice to demonstrate
your actual abilities?
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000a.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000b.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000c.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000d.jpg
Considering the age of those photos and the high speed film used,added
to the relatively poor quality of desktop scanners in those days... For
the purpose these photos were taken, They look to me to be about what
you could expect.

This Tony Polson fellow you attribute the photography to, is probably
dead. In 2007 he subscribed to a medical group where he described fairly
accurately the incurable disease he had.

Even if his life expectancy was double the six month most people
diagnosed with his disease live for, he'd be pulling a neat stunt to be
communication from the grave, don't you think?

DO you actually have any evidence that "Bruce" is Tony Polson? Given
that Paris Match has recently published it's 3000th edition, it is
conceivable anyone who contributes to an image bank in Europe could have
had one of their pictures published on the cover of Paris Match and have
been paid the miserable amount they offer for nondescript photos when
they are scraping the barrel for a cover shot.

Why is there so much personal abuse and attacks going on in this group?
Is it frequented by juveniles with nothing better to do are what?
Savageduck
2012-02-12 17:32:20 UTC
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Post by Chloe
Post by Alan Browne
Will focus on printers (they are 6th in the market ... what did Jack
Welch used to say...).
I suppose they're still selling large sensors to Hasselblad and perhaps
others.
Re-inventing the wheel has never been a brilliant business plan.
I see Alan Browne is showing (yet again) his near-total ignorance of
the photo industry. I suppose it matches his ignorance across a broad
range of topics related to photography, so it is to be expected.
For those who are interested in the facts, rather than the usual
Browne BS, Kodak sold its sensor design and manufacturing business to
Platinum Equity in early November 2011. It was widely reported across
the photo web sites and in printed media and discussed on Usenet photo
Really "Bruce", do you lay in wait for my slightest error to make an ad
hominem attack? Pathetic is too light a word for your ... condition.
With that in mind however, let me refer to some facts since you seem so
QUOTE
But I must be fair to the 75-150mm f/4 Zuiko; it made me money,
because the results were good enough for several picture
editors. One of my shots taken with this lens was on the cover
of "Paris Match" in the late 1970s. The two most "profitable"
lenses I owned were this and the 24mm f/2.8 Zuiko, which is a
fine lens and every bit the equal of the Nikkor.
..
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
UNQUOTE
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.rec.photo.misc/n7Nx54rzxaw/uyb4AdyG_x4J
What editor Tony?
What edition of Paris Match Tony?
C'mon Tony. Show us your "prowess".
Or should these photographic "facts" taken by you suffice to demonstrate
your actual abilities?
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000a.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000b.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000c.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?september98/09-24-98/d9000d.jpg
Considering the age of those photos and the high speed film used,added
to the relatively poor quality of desktop scanners in those days... For
the purpose these photos were taken, They look to me to be about what
you could expect.
This Tony Polson fellow you attribute the photography to, is probably
dead. In 2007 he subscribed to a medical group where he described
fairly accurately the incurable disease he had.
Even if his life expectancy was double the six month most people
diagnosed with his disease live for, he'd be pulling a neat stunt to be
communication from the grave, don't you think?
Then he has done quite well since he last posted as Tony in this group
in April 2008 and in another of his favorite groups uk.railway in July
2009.
His "Tony Polson" email address was ***@googlemail.com and his
"Bruce" persona email address is ***@gmail.com. Draw your own
conclusions.

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Post by Chloe
DO you actually have any evidence that "Bruce" is Tony Polson?
See above.
Post by Chloe
Given that Paris Match has recently published it's 3000th edition, it
is conceivable anyone who contributes to an image bank in Europe could
have had one of their pictures published on the cover of Paris Match
and have been paid the miserable amount they offer for nondescript
photos when they are scraping the barrel for a cover shot.
Why is there so much personal abuse and attacks going on in this group?
...just the last symptoms of a low testosterone count.
Post by Chloe
Is it frequented by juveniles with nothing better to do are what?
Guilty as charged. (Trying to convince myself that I will be forever young) ;-)
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Regards,

Savageduck
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